North American Color Pertwee Broadcasts

[douglaswulf]

I posted to the RT Forum asking about places where color Pertwee episodes now held only in monochrome might have been broadcast overseas.

The best place to find color copies of most of the episodes in question seems to be the USA and Canada, perhaps via off-air videotaped recordings.

As far as North America goes, given input from Richard Molesworth and others, it seems that Ambassadors of Death and Mind of Evil were broadcast then at least from the following six stations in North America:

WGBH Boston Ch. 2 (VHS) / Ch. 44 (UHF)
WNED Buffalo Ch. 17 (UHF)
WTTW Chicago Ch. 11 (VHF)
CKVU Vancouver Ch. 21 (UHF)
KCET Los Angeles Ch. 28 (UHF)
WHYY Philadelphia Ch. 12 (VHF)

'AoD' was broadcast in Buffalo in 1977 and recorded, but with interference.
'MoE' was perhaps broadcast in Chicago in 1979.
CKVU started broadcasting on Sep. 1, 1976, so its broadcasts of color Pertwee must have been after this time, though CKVU may not have shown 'Ambassadors'
Boston might have been broadcasting these the earliest (c. 1972).
Los Angeles broadcasts were c. 1976.

Betamax was introduced in 1975 and VHS in 1976. It is possible that off-air color recordings from American or Canadian broadcasts exist.

I have created similar needle-in-a-haystack sort of postings for these color Pertwees, which I will post below. Does anyone have any additional info or details about these early broadcasts of Pertwee episodes in North America?

[douglaswulf]

So, here would be a possible posting for Chicago...

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The BBC is searching for color copies of 13 episodes of the series Doctor Who. Though filmed in color, these episodes today exist in the archives only as black-and-white prints. Color footage is sought to restore these episodes for release on DVD.

In the late 1970s, as many as 11 of the 13 episodes were broadcast in color on WTTW Chicago (Ch. 11). The episodes come from the stories ‘The Ambassadors of Death’ and ‘The Mind of Evil.’

If you have a videotape of these episodes in color or have any information about color copies of these episodes, please contact the BBC by sending an email to:

[e-mail]

(That's info AT restoration-team.co.uk)

There is further information at:

www.restoration-team.co.uk/

See the link
Can You Help Us?

These episodes were also shown on the following stations:

WGBH Boston Ch. 2 (VHS) / Ch. 44 (UHF)
WNED Buffalo Ch. 17 (UHF)
CKVU Vancouver Ch. 21 (UHF)
KCET Los Angeles Ch. 28 (UHF)
WHYY Philadelphia Ch. 12 (VHF)

It is believed that the original broadcast tapes were destroyed.

The BBC is also searching for episodes of Doctor Who that are completely missing from the archives.

You can see the full list of missing episodes of Doctor Who (as well as missing episodes from other British TV shows such as Adam Adamant Lives, A for Andromeda, etc.) at:

www.missing-episodes.com

If you think you may have a missing episode as a 16mm print or a copy in another format (8mm off-air or videotape), or have any information about these episodes, please contact the BBC at the above email.

[douglaswulf]

Here would be a possible posting for Boston...

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The BBC is searching for color copies of 13 episodes of the series Doctor Who. Though filmed in color, these episodes today exist in the archives only as black-and-white prints. Color footage is sought to restore these episodes for release on DVD.

In the 1970s, as many as 11 of the 13 episodes were broadcast in color on WGBH Boston (Ch. 2 / Ch. 44). The episodes come from the stories ‘The Ambassadors of Death’ and ‘The Mind of Evil.’

If you have a videotape of these episodes in color or have any information about color copies of these episodes, please contact the BBC by sending an email to:

[e-mail]

(That's info AT restoration-team.co.uk)

There is further information at:

www.restoration-team.co.uk/

See the link
Can You Help Us?

These episodes were also shown on the following stations:

WTTW Chicago Ch. 11 (VHF)
WNED Buffalo Ch. 17 (UHF)
CKVU Vancouver Ch. 21 (UHF)
KCET Los Angeles Ch. 28 (UHF)
WHYY Philadelphia Ch. 12 (VHF)

It is believed that the original broadcast tapes were destroyed.

The BBC is also searching for episodes of Doctor Who that are completely missing from the archives.

You can see the full list of missing episodes of Doctor Who (as well as missing episodes from other British TV shows such as Adam Adamant Lives, A for Andromeda, etc.) at:

www.missing-episodes.com

If you think you may have a missing episode as a 16mm print or a copy in another format (8mm off-air or videotape), or have any information about these episodes, please contact the BBC at the above email.

[douglaswulf]

Here would be a possible posting for Buffalo...

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +

The BBC is searching for color copies of 13 episodes of the series Doctor Who. Though filmed in color, these episodes today exist in the archives only as black-and-white prints. Color footage is sought to restore these episodes for release on DVD.

In the 1970s, 11 of the 13 episodes were broadcast in color on WNED Buffalo (Ch. 17). The episodes come from the stories ‘The Ambassadors of Death’ and ‘The Mind of Evil.’

In fact, Buffalo-area recordings of some of these episodes have been recovered already, but these suffer in part from broadcast interference, making them problematic for use in DVD restoration.

If you have a videotape of these episodes in color or have any information about color copies of these episodes, please contact the BBC by sending an email to:

[e-mail]

(That's info AT restoration-team.co.uk)

There is further information at:

www.restoration-team.co.uk/

See the link
Can You Help Us?

These episodes were also shown on the following stations:

WGBH Boston Ch. 2 (VHS) / Ch. 44 (UHF)
WTTW Chicago Ch. 11 (VHF)
CKVU Vancouver Ch. 21 (UHF)
KCET Los Angeles Ch. 28 (UHF)
WHYY Philadelphia Ch. 12 (VHF)

It is believed that the original broadcast tapes were destroyed.

The BBC is also searching for episodes of Doctor Who that are completely missing from the archives.

You can see the full list of missing episodes of Doctor Who (as well as missing episodes from other British TV shows such as Adam Adamant Lives, A for Andromeda, etc.) at:

www.missing-episodes.com

If you think you may have a missing episode as a 16mm print or a copy in another format (8mm off-air or videotape), or have any information about these episodes, please contact the BBC at the above email.

[douglaswulf]

Here would be a possible posting for Vancouver...

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The BBC is searching for color copies of 13 episodes of the series Doctor Who. Though filmed in color, these episodes today exist in the archives only as black-and-white prints. Color footage is sought to restore these episodes for release on DVD.

In the late 1970s, as many as 11 of the 13 episodes were broadcast in color in Vancouver on CKVU (Ch. 21). The episodes come from the stories ‘The Ambassadors of Death’ and ‘The Mind of Evil.’

If you have a videotape of these episodes in color or have any information about color copies of these episodes, please contact the BBC by sending an email to:

[e-mail]

(That's info AT restoration-team.co.uk)

There is further information at:

www.restoration-team.co.uk/

See the link
Can You Help Us?

These episodes were also shown on the following stations:

WGBH Boston Ch. 2 (VHS) / Ch. 44 (UHF)
WNED Buffalo Ch. 17 (UHF)
WTTW Chicago Ch. 11 (VHF)
KCET Los Angeles Ch. 28 (UHF)
WHYY Philadelphia Ch. 12 (VHF)

It is believed that the original broadcast tapes were destroyed.

The BBC is also searching for episodes of Doctor Who that are completely missing from the archives.

You can see the full list of missing episodes of Doctor Who (as well as missing episodes from other British TV shows such as Adam Adamant Lives, A for Andromeda, etc.) at:

www.missing-episodes.com

If you think you may have a missing episode as a 16mm print or a copy in another format (8mm off-air or videotape), or have any information about these episodes, please contact the BBC at the above email.

[douglaswulf]

Here would be a possible posting for Los Angeles...

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The BBC is searching for color copies of 13 episodes of the series Doctor Who. Though filmed in color, these episodes today exist in the archives only as black-and-white prints. Color footage is sought to restore these episodes for release on DVD.

In the 1970s, as many as 11 of the 13 episodes were broadcast in color in Los Angeles on KCET (Ch. 28). The episodes come from the stories ‘The Ambassadors of Death’ and ‘The Mind of Evil.’

The episodes would probably have aired weekly on Tuesday or Wednesday nights at 7:30 or perhaps Saturday afternoons at 1:00.

If you have a videotape of these episodes in color or have any information about color copies of these episodes, please contact the BBC by sending an email to:

[e-mail]

(That's info AT restoration-team.co.uk)

There is further information at:

www.restoration-team.co.uk/

See the link
Can You Help Us?

These episodes were also shown on the following stations:

WGBH Boston Ch. 2 (VHS) / Ch. 44 (UHF)
WNED Buffalo Ch. 17 (UHF)
WTTW Chicago Ch. 11 (VHF)
CKVU Vancouver Ch. 21 (UHF)
WHYY Philadelphia Ch. 12 (VHF)

It is believed that the original broadcast tapes were destroyed.

The BBC is also searching for episodes of Doctor Who that are completely missing from the archives.

You can see the full list of missing episodes of Doctor Who (as well as missing episodes from other British TV shows such as Adam Adamant Lives, A for Andromeda, etc.) at:

www.missing-episodes.com

If you think you may have a missing episode as a 16mm print or a copy in another format (8mm off-air or videotape), or have any information about these episodes, please contact the BBC at the above email.

[douglaswulf]

So, here would be a possible posting for Philadelphia...

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +

The BBC is searching for color copies of 13 episodes of the series Doctor Who. Though filmed in color, these episodes today exist in the archives only as black-and-white prints. Color footage is sought to restore these episodes for release on DVD.

In the late 1970s, as many as 11 of the 13 episodes were broadcast in color on WHYY Philadelphia (Ch. 12). The episodes come from the stories ‘The Ambassadors of Death’ and ‘The Mind of Evil.’

If you have a videotape of these episodes in color or have any information about color copies of these episodes, please contact the BBC by sending an email to:

[e-mail]

(That's info AT restoration-team.co.uk)

There is further information at:

www.restoration-team.co.uk/

See the link
Can You Help Us?

These episodes were also shown on the following stations:

WGBH Boston Ch. 2 (VHS) / Ch. 44 (UHF)
WNED Buffalo Ch. 17 (UHF)
WTTW Chicago Ch. 11 (VHF)
CKVU Vancouver Ch. 21 (UHF)
KCET Los Angeles Ch. 28 (UHF)

It is believed that the original broadcast tapes were destroyed.

The BBC is also searching for episodes of Doctor Who that are completely missing from the archives.

You can see the full list of missing episodes of Doctor Who (as well as missing episodes from other British TV shows such as Adam Adamant Lives, A for Andromeda, etc.) at:

www.missing-episodes.com

If you think you may have a missing episode as a 16mm print or a copy in another format (8mm off-air or videotape), or have any information about these episodes, please contact the BBC at the above email.

[douglaswulf]

For good measure, here would be a possible posting for the UK or perhaps videotape trading groups online worldwide...

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The BBC is searching for color copies of 13 episodes of the series Doctor Who. Though filmed in color, these episodes today exist in the archives only as black-and-white prints. Color footage is sought to restore these episodes for release on DVD.

The episodes come from the following stories:

The Ambassadors of Death
The Mind of Evil
Planet of the Daleks
Invasion of the Dinosaurs (Onscreen title for episode 1: 'Invasion')

If you have a videotape of these episodes in color or have any information about color copies of these episodes, please contact the BBC by sending an email to:

[e-mail]

(That's info AT restoration-team.co.uk)

There is further information at:

www.restoration-team.co.uk/

See the link
Can You Help Us?

It is believed that the original broadcast tapes were destroyed.

The BBC is also searching for episodes of Doctor Who that are completely missing from the archives.

You can see the full list of missing episodes of Doctor Who (as well as missing episodes from other British TV shows such as Adam Adamant Lives, A for Andromeda, etc.) at:

www.missing-episodes.com

If you think you may have a missing episode as a 16mm print or a copy in another format (8mm off-air or videotape), or have any information about these episodes, please contact the BBC at the above email.

[douglaswulf]

Here are a couple of needle-in-a-haystack attempts...

chicago.craigslist.org/chc/com/396304898.html

london.craigslist.org/com/396310814.html

[douglaswulf]

The website winstonengle.tripod.com/chicagowho/broad.htm lists the following information for Pertwee broadcasts:

Research based on the Chicago Tribune(September 1975-July 1976, September 1976, March 1977, February 1980-May 1985, July 1985-February 1988, April-July 1988, February-March 1989, December 1989, February 1990, April-July 1990, December 1990, March 1991, June 1991, August-September 1991, and July-September 1996); and on Elevenmagazine (March-April 1988, June-August 1988, November 1988-January 1989, May 1989, July 1989-March 1990, August 1990-September 1991, and July-September 1996).

Thanks to Thomas Holz for some of the 1991 titles.
Thanks to Steve Hill for great help on 1975-77 information.

Asterisk (*) denotes first Chicago broadcast.
"Sunday 12:30am" (for example) is late Sunday night, not early Sunday morning.
New or changed entries in italictext.

Regular Timeslot Weekdays 6:30pm (episodic)

Mon 09/29/75 *The Mutants, Part One (premiere)
Tue 09/30/75 *The Mutants, Part Two
Wed 10/01/75 *The Mutants, Part Three
Thu 10/02/75 *The Mutants, Part Four
Fri 10/03/75 *The Mutants, Part Five
Mon 10/06/75 *The Mutants, Part Six
Tue 10/07/75 *Day of the Daleks, Part One
Wed 10/08/75 *Day of the Daleks, Part Two
Thu 10/09/75 *Day of the Daleks, Part Three
Fri 10/10/75 *Day of the Daleks, Part Four
Mon 10/13/75 *The Ambassadors of Death, Part One
Tue 10/14/75 *The Ambassadors of Death, Part Two
Wed 10/15/75 *The Ambassadors of Death, Part Three
Thu 10/16/75 *The Ambassadors of Death, Part Four
Fri 10/17/75 *The Ambassadors of Death, Part Five
Mon 10/20/75 *The Ambassadors of Death, Part Six
Tue 10/21/75 *The Ambassadors of Death, Part Seven
Wed 10/22/75 *Terror of the Autons, Part One
Thu 10/23/75 *Terror of the Autons, Part Two
Fri 10/24/75 *Terror of the Autons, Part Three
Mon 10/27/75 *Terror of the Autons, Part Four
Tue 10/28/75 (no broadcast)
Wed 10/29/75 through Fri 11/28/75 (titles unknown)
Mon 12/01/75 *Colony in Space, Part One
Tue 12/02/75 *Colony in Space, Part Two
Wed 12/03/75 *Colony in Space, Part Three
Thu 12/04/75 *Colony in Space, Part Four
Fri 12/05/75 *Colony in Space, Part Five
Mon 12/08/75 *Colony in Space, Part Six
Tue 12/09/75 (no broadcast)
Wed 12/10/75 *The Time Monster, Part One
Thu 12/11/75 *The Time Monster, Part Two
Fri 12/12/75 *The Time Monster, Part Three
Mon 12/15/75 *The Time Monster, Part Four
Tue 12/16/75 *The Time Monster, Part Five
Wed 12/17/75 *The Time Monster, Part Six
Thu 12/18/75 *The Daemons, Part One
Fri 12/19/75 *The Daemons, Part Two
Mon 12/22/75 *The Daemons, Part Three
Tue 12/23/75 *The Daemons, Part Four
Wed 12/24/75 *The Daemons, Part Five
Thu 12/25/75 through Fri 01/02/76 (no broadcast)
Mon 01/05/76 through Mon 01/12/76 (title unknown) (end of timeslot)

Regular Timeslot first Monday and Tuesday of the month 10pm (episodic)

Mon 02/02/76 Doctor Who and the Silurians, Parts One through Three
Tue 02/03/76 Doctor Who and the Silurians, Parts Four through Seven
Mon 03/01/76 The Ambassadors of Death, Parts One through Four
Tue 03/02/76 The Ambassadors of Death, Parts Five through Seven
Mon 04/05/76 Inferno, Parts One through Three
Tue 04/06/76 Inferno, Parts Four through Seven (10:30p)
Mon 05/03/76 The Sea Devils, Parts One through Three
Tue 05/04/76 The Sea Devils, Parts Four through Six (10:30p)

No Regular Timeslot (episodic)

Sat 06/26/76 Day of the Daleks, all episodes (9:00p)
Sat 09/25/76 The Claws of Axos, all episodes (7:00p)
Mon 03/07/77 Terror of the Autons, Part One (11:45p)
Tue 03/08/77 Terror of the Autons, Part Two (11:30p)
Wed 03/09/77 Terror of the Autons, Part Three (11:30p)
Thu 03/10/77 Terror of the Autons, Part Four (11:30p)

[JS]

I recently came across this site being a former Doctor Who fan who had started watching again recently and learned of the missing episodes and such. Anyways I do not know how important it is but, I am from Philadelphia and there was actually another station besides channel 12 that displayed Doctor Who episodes.

The station was Channel 35 WYBE I believe but they had a great many more episodes than Channel 12 in fact they would show entire serials in one sitting.

I also know for a fact that they had WILLIAM HARTNELL and PATRICK TROUGHTON episodes shown as well.

Also, all the JON PERTWEE episodes were in color for exception of the first episode where JON PERTWEE appears.

Also, who knows they might have some lost episodes. All I know is they had a tremendous amount of the Doctor Who episodes.

Hope it helps.

I will try to check back later for any follow-ups.

[douglaswulf]

The difficulty is that if the station was showing these episodes after 1978 or 1979, then they would (as far as we know) just be the 'surviving' episodes. In other words, the 13 or so episodes of Pertwee's stories for which no color copy survives would not have been among those broadcast (again, as far as we know). Also, the 108 missing 1960s episodes would not be among the Hartnell and Troughton stories shown because those episodes were destroyed between 1972 and 1978.

However, between 1972 and 1978/79 or so, a handful of PBS stations in the U.S. and Canada are known to have broadcast those 13 episodes for which no color copy of any sort is known to exist. It is not impossible that someone videotaped these. In fact, the color for a number of stories was reintroduced for the VHS and DVD releases from such home video recordings made in the U.S. (in Buffalo). However, for the upcoming release of 'Planet of the Daleks', no known home recording of this episode from the U.S. was found, so this episode was colorized with a combination of computer colorization and the chroma dot recovery of color information from black and white prints.

[iwalters]

I remember North Carolina Public Television broadcast [specifically WUNG channel 58] broadcast Pertwee episodes in color in the late 70's, early eighties. They also showed some Hartnell and Troughton episodes, but of course after thirty years I can't remember which specific ones they were. Has anyone ever contacted them to see what they have?

[douglaswulf]

I do not know if this PBS station has been contacted or not, but you would be welcome to give it a try. You could ask specifically about missing color Pertwee episodes as listed. Hartnell and Troughton shown anywhere in the USA would surely not have been missing episodes.