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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 6, 2007 12:25:16 GMT
On Doctor Who Online in the News section: The Web of Fear - found? News Dated: 6/9/2007 DWO have received reports that the lost Doctor Who adventure; The Web of Fear, has been found. Obviously it is very early days, and we don't usually report these kind of rumours, but the DWO team genuinly feel there may be some truth to this report. If indeed it is true, fans will at last have a complete Yeti story to add to their Doctor Who DVD collections in the months to come. DWO will keep you posted as this story unfolds further. www.drwho-online.co.uk/news/news.htm
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 6, 2007 12:26:31 GMT
A comment on this from Mark Ayres on the RT forum: Mark Ayres Re: I am holding my breath but report Web of Fear found? Thu Sep 06 2007 11:33:41 083.105.040.190 At this point this is very much a rumour and I don't think this forum is the place to discuss it. If and when we hear anything official, we'll report it. All I can say is that I, personally, have heard nothing. Perhaps I should take this opportunity to reiterate that if anyone does have any information they should contact the BBC via the RT - we can immediately pass it on to those best-placed to deal with it. The email address is on our front page. Thanks, MArk. www.rtforum.co.uk/read.php?id=205562
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 6, 2007 12:35:57 GMT
A comment from Sebastian J. Brook at Outpost Gallifrey:
Today, 05:42 am
Re: The Web of Fear - found? As we mentioned in the news item, we do not usually report these rumours, but the intel we received has been accurate with other news items in the past and has never let us down.
I really hope this will be proven correct soon. Sebastian J. Brook
Site Editor Doctor Who Online
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 6, 2007 12:36:55 GMT
A comment from Sebastian J. Brook at Outpost Gallifrey:
Today, 05:50 am
Hehe! wouldnt this be amazing though! The first complete Yeti adventure to get a DVD release! Truly one of the classic Doctor Who monsters, and one that I think could still scare the kids of today! Sebastian J. Brook
Site Editor Doctor Who Online
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 6, 2007 12:38:11 GMT
A comment from Sebastian J. Brook at Outpost Gallifrey:
Today, 05:54 am
Re: The Web of Fear - found?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Megabyte_Modem No offense Seb but your editorial policy should include only reporting news like this if it is assured. Folks emotions run high when it comes to the missing episodes.
Your website will lose some credibility if you have been hoaxed or misinformed.
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We state it is a rumour, not as fact. As for our editorial record, it has proven to be extremely accurate, and by stating this a rumour we are not commiting either way.
If it turns out to be wrong, then there isnt much we can do, but we have stated the situation cleary and now ask readers to wait for official word, which (if true) should follow soon. Sebastian J. Brook
Site Editor Doctor Who Online
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 6, 2007 12:40:46 GMT
A comment from Sebastian J. Brook at Outpost Gallifrey:
Today, 06:48 am
Re: The Web of Fear - found?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jim Trenowden Well, it's pretty much been said to be false over at the Ian Levine Forums.
Richard Bignell referred to it as unsubstantiated, and Ian is saying it's rubbish according to his friend in the Restoration Team. He's also saying there's nothing in Zambia but local stuff according to Sue Malden.
Hard to know whether he's just being grumpy or telling it like it is.
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As my final word on this (for now), I just want to state that at no point have we stated it as FACT. I have a strong belief, based on previous news from our source, that this could very well be true, but Im not saying 100%.
I now leave it up to the official powers to validate / deny the rumour.
If it is false, then as a site, we have learnt a valuable lesson, but as it is Doctor Who news, I for one (as a fan) would like to read about it. Sebastian J. Brook
Site Editor Doctor Who Online
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 13, 2007 14:51:17 GMT
On Doctor Who Online in the News section:
The Web of Fear found? - updated News Updated: 7/9/2007 As we have previously stated, we do not usually report rumours of this scale, and we certainly would not report a rumour like this without having some belief / evidence of its veracity. DWO ran a news item yesterday detailing that we believe there to be some truth in the rumour that The Web of Fear has been found. Today, we are still standing by that statement. We are not confirming or denying the rumour, merely stating our position in regards to reporting the item. As providers of one of the leading online Doctor Who news sources, it is sometimes difficult to judge exactly what to report on. We thought about keeping the news to ourselves, but then we wouldn't be providing you with the service we set out to provide you all those years ago. DWO is first and foremost a Doctor Who News and Information site. As fans ourselves, we understand how frustrating it is to hear a report of a missing episode and find out it isn't true, and we obviously wouldn't want to be perpetrators of such reports. If the rumour indeed turns out to be true, we're not the sort of site to say 'we told you so', we're just genuinely pleased that a part of Doctor Who history will have been returned. If however it turns out to be false, then it will of course be a shame, but once again we would like to make it clear that at no point have we said it is 100% confirmed. As fans you have a right to hear the news stories we believe are credible and worthy of a mention. We now ask fans to be patient and wait for an official confirmation / denial. Regardless of how the rumour turns out, DWO are in the planning stages of a massive missing episode hunt campaign. We feel that through all of the positive messages and support we have had so far, that we can pull the online communities, as well as contacts we have made over the past 11 years together and try to help locate some of the missing Doctor Who stories. We understand there have been previous attempts to do this, and in some cases this has proven to be extremely successful, so we're going to use our online presence, resources and status in a massive campaign which you will see in print and online media over the coming weeks and months. If you feel you can help in any way, pleas email us at: missingepisodes@drwho-online.co.uk.
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 18, 2007 4:59:11 GMT
Saturday, October 13th is the day to mark on your calendar. As mentioned on several other websites, that's the day of the Raiders of the Lost Archive event described at: www.the-mausoleum-club.org.uk/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=15772As the posting states: "We are being deliberately mysterious about each section, but there have been some great finds and we will be showing complete sequences from material only briefly glimpsed on screen, as well as footage considered but rejected because the run time was too long." Among the finds described but not named specifically are: 1500 finds: lots of material recovered from Phillips 1500 and 1700 cassettes BBC finds: material traced from around the world Film Collector finds: material recovered from 35mm and 16mm sources Reel-to reel finds: material taken from CV2000 and Shibaden early domestic systems From the collection of the stars: material loaned to Kaleidoscope by famous artistes who kept their own appearances Some have speculated that the 'Web of Fear' rumor relates to footage to be announced at this event. One individual posting to another website noted that the BBC finds are scheduled at 5:15 that day and that 5:15 on Saturdays was the original time slot of Classic Who. Is that perhaps significant? Well, we will learn what these finds are in a little less than a month.
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 18, 2007 5:23:42 GMT
On the RT forum on Sunday, September 9, 2007, there were a few interesting exchanges. Paul Vanezis replied to a question about the 'baking' of one of the quad tapes of Peladon to restore it. His response was...
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Hello John.
Yes, I will have to check, but I believe that the transfer has now been done.
I'll check with WMR next time I'm in the office. I've been away filming, hence not chasing this up and only just hearing about that 'Web of Fear' nonsense.
Regards,
Paul
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Kevin Hardy on the same forum then replied:
Thats a shame, but perhaps not a surprise !
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Stuart Burns replied:
Oh, so it is nonsense, is it? I feared this would be the case. Oh well, not worse off, I suppose...
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Paul Vanezis then replied:
I was surprised that DWO published their news report. A rumour is always a rumour. I have a very simple motto which everyone else should take heed of; it's one I have followed successfully because as some of you may know, I do have some experience in this area.
It is this:
"I'll believe it when I see it."
A rumour is worthy of no comment other than that, regardless of whether the person reporting it personally believes it to be true. A rumour is also not news, which is why I think Shaun Lyon was very wise to remove reference to it on his news page.
You can tell it isn't news because what is being reported is that some un-named source who they believe says that something has been found, which can't be confirmed by anyone else. So what they are actually saying is they can't confirm something has or has not happened.
Big deal.
Of course, I would love to be proven incorrect.
Regards,
Paul
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On Monday, September 10, 2007, Martin Jones replied:
It will make Doctor Who Online look a tad "sheepish" one day perhaps someone ought to write a book on the search for missing episodes and just how many cons, false leads and wind ups there have been. As you say don't believe anything until it arrives at the BBC.
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Sebastian J. Brook replied:
This has nothing to do with making people look sheepish. We are a respectable News and Information site. We regularly publish news items and provide covers for all the forthcoming merchandise - no complaints at all.
We stated that this was a rumour, and did not state it was confirmed.
It is YET to be confirmed / denied officially, and even if it turns out to be false, you can't have a go at us - would you rather not know about a possible find?
We have been blown away with the tremendous support from the majority of fans over this story.
The amount of emails we have received saying how regardless of the outcome, they are just pleased we were able to report the news, has been welcomed by our team. We have also taken any negative comments on board too.
Either way, our reporting of the news has given us some fresh perspective on how we should report such news in the future.
Sebastian J. Brook
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Paul Vanezis replied:
Perhaps you could not report unsubstantiated rumours as news in the future? Just a suggestion.
Regards,
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The thread was then locked.
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 18, 2007 5:39:07 GMT
The comments by members of the RT about the 'Web of Fear' rumor come close to a denial, but are not a direct denial. Thus, it is possible that a surprise is in the works for the 'Raiders of the Lost Archive' event.
If there is something secret in the works, the RT would not want to ruin the secret with some official announcement on the web.
Thus, we should just wait until the event in October and see if there are any Doctor-Who-related surprise involved. In the same way as the RT do not discuss upcoming releases, they may not be at liberty to discuss this matter yet, if there is indeed a find.
If such a surprise is due to take place, I can understand why a leaked rumor would be annoying. On the other hand, the rumor may indeed be false. I think the RT has responded appropriately in either case actually.
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Post by newboy on Sept 18, 2007 18:47:22 GMT
Well Im looking forwards to some god finds by the raiders team but i cannot help think anything significant would already be widly known. Secrets are notoriously hard to keep these days.
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 18, 2007 19:52:15 GMT
Well Im looking forwards to some god finds by the raiders team but i cannot help think anything significant would already be widly known. Secrets are notoriously hard to keep these days. ...which is why this rumor has perhaps already leaked out. (At least, that's one way to interpret what has been happening.)
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Post by willzurhorst on Sept 18, 2007 21:43:35 GMT
Well the responses sound rushed and erratic. In my opinion this suggests a high possibility of a cover up after something has leaked slightly. and the bbc stuff starting at 515 pm sounds fishy. And who knows there could be a whole batch of episodes not just the Web of Fear.
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Post by douglaswulf on Sept 19, 2007 2:55:28 GMT
Well the responses sound rushed and erratic. In my opinion this suggests a high possibility of a cover up after something has leaked slightly. and the bbc stuff starting at 515 pm sounds fishy. And who knows there could be a whole batch of episodes not just the Web of Fear. Richard Bignell replied on Ian Levine's forum about the 5:15 start time. He said that only one seventh of Doctor Who went out at that time so it would not be significant. I tried to find out when 'Web of Fear' was broadcast and I think the answer was 5:50. Thus, there is perhaps nothing particularly noteworthy about the time. Nonetheless, I'll be very interested to hear what is announced on the evening of October 13th.
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Post by willzurhorst on Sept 19, 2007 5:57:11 GMT
Well if 5.15 does have any significance the found episode was broadcast. or the best episode out of. A batch of episodes was broadcast, or it is totally random.
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